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Interesting comment, John. Had an Eagle Claw back in the 70s, but lost it someplace along the line. I do know it would not have measured up to even my old 80s graphite Powell.Your comment re. 60s sports cars rung a bell, too. I've driven the Poudre Canyon ...

Yup. The Stetson, the Winchester, toss in The Colt, The Smith & Wesson, and so on were/are choices. Much political 'stuff' is not. That, however, is part of life in a republic.

If I'm hiking very far, like more than a mile or two, if the trail is steep/rocky, or various other factors, then I pack the waders inside and attach the boots to the outside of my pack. If I'm hiking far, like 6+ miles, then I don't bring boots. ...

Good discussion, Geoff.

The "urban dwellers" will?

I sent a post earlier today but didn't see it in the replies. I'll try again. But I too had a pair of Smith sunglasses that delaminated after probably 3-4 years. Have never seen that in another pair but have not bought another pair of Smiths. ...

That's because the majority of the people live the three metro counties you mention (I'm in Multnomah). Land mass does not equal votes. And the urban dwellers of Portland will defeat this measure. ------------------------------ Aleson Macfarlane Portland ...